THE REAL EUROPE VS USA - Now or never.

some call it pro, some call it a nerd or a freak.

just milton know the real LoyD

baaaaahh!! i saw u all as newbys muhahaha but i saw the truth pros to and u was one of them

my last worts to this topic:

i play now css i train realy hard to get my old css skills back becouse i wanna play again of the top in esl i play sometimes 15 hours on a day if i have that time.... well thats 4 me what it makes a pro.

hey you xxxx, you think i never played with you on loyds caste!! >:(

In my opinion, so Europe can win, we ALL must forget our flame wars and work for chosing our best team. I hate seeing you all acusing of hacking each other and flaming for an 1on1 win WE WONT WIN if we dont stop that. We need friendship and union.

MY teams

5v5
Crip
Karam
Sadic
DASA
Zippo

6v6
SAME
Zealot

10v10 IT would be Awsome
Crip
Karam
Sadic
DASA
Zippo
Zealot
Wildcat
Jezus
Black
A kMa guy

well iam for sure not one of the "top" gamers... but i see great gamers with skills.

Zippo movment, AK, Pistol, Shotty all great and nice aiming.
Sajaak His AK is so hardcore, but in last times i think he is a bit lower then he was but he belongs 4 sure in my eyes to the top6 eu Aker.
Doni nice ak, moving & Shotty guy
Atecep Hard fighter, nice AK nice movement great shotty and aiming.
SuGGy AK powerful, movement and Shotty great aiming!
Milton Great fighter, AK, Movement & shotty.

The most importen thing: theire skill lvl is always high and static like almost never mid or low and theire skill just improve how longer they fight/warmed up its amazing and fun to fight agains. its not only that i like them, no, if Mr.T would pwon like that (god help me) i would list him too. but those 6 guys are the top6 (EU) for me.
Ya and i had some different opinion with Mili but that doesnt change the fact for me that he belongs to me to the top (EU).

for sure there are some others too as above listed but i cant say something about them bc i didnt saw them often/never playing.

.......

But to reminde all those out there, it is not all about winning guys its about the fun! ya challeng must be BUT thats the point of having fun even if u fail just to lean back and have a smile on face and thinking: "oh ya i tryed hard but that was a nice fight, he/she was just better". and that happends to me when i fight agains those above listed from me.

take care
*peace*

EDIT: why not making a EU and USA AllStar Team? the best off top 6 players evry 3 months try have some fun. AllStar Team made by votings in Forum why not. community desides theire team. But to make it a real usa vs eu it is needed to da a LAN with all players at same building so no one has a + or - in that game all have same conditions that would be REAL FUN but i guess that would be never happen. well just one idea...

bah!

i only gonna play 4 a 10on10 with

soala (top5 of the best aks)
zippo (high skilled allrounder)
Hatcher (greatest player ever)
bunny1 (most skilled allrounder)
swiss (most skilled sniperuser/val, m87r)
last resort (greate shooty user)
sjaak (top 3 of the best aks eva)
loyd (top 5 of the best aks eva)
karl kani ( just godlike.)

4 5on5

hatcher
sjaak
karl kani
zippo

but i know that most of that ppl dont come back so i haven to play on it

why dont we try? If we dont try of course they wont come.

bah!

i only gonna play 4 a 10on10 with

soala (top5 of the best aks)
zippo (high skilled allrounder)
Hatcher (greatest player ever)
bunny1 (most skilled allrounder)
swiss (most skilled sniperuser/val, m87r)
last resort (greate shooty user)
sjaak (top 3 of the best aks eva)
loyd (top 5 of the best aks eva)
karl kani ( just godlike.)

4 5on5

hatcher
sjaak
karl kani
zippo

but i know that most of that ppl dont come back so i haven to play on it

well thats what we are saying here
if they would come back, half of us would pwn their asses cuz they're not as good as they used to be
besides bunny1 wasn't that good, me and skyliner used to train with her

bah!

i only gonna play 4 a 10on10 with

soala (top5 of the best aks)
zippo (high skilled allrounder)
Hatcher (greatest player ever)
bunny1 (most skilled allrounder)
swiss (most skilled sniperuser/val, m87r)
last resort (greate shooty user)
sjaak (top 3 of the best aks eva)
loyd (top 5 of the best aks eva)
karl kani ( just godlike.)

4 5on5

hatcher
sjaak
karl kani
zippo

but i know that most of that ppl dont come back so i haven to play on it

well thats what we are saying here
if they would come back, half of us would pwn their asses cuz they're not as good as they used to be
besides bunny1 wasn't that good, me and skyliner used to train with her

It's not because Zippo is a twat or anything, but he's really xxxx low, really. And agreed with nemy, bunny1 wasn't that good.

Just to Milton quickly, what you said about me is a testament to how much you dont know my play at all and a testomant to how hipocritical you are being ... im good with ak but under average with shotguh when ... I dont even really ak anymore but I shotgun the most and am very good with it for sure, and the only clan war I've ever played badly in was the A vs kMa ... apart from that I always seem to be on fire, you even saw that vs CH and before you decided that you hate me (for no reason if I might add) you often spoke of my great play, and Milton I've been playing this game several years more than you have, please do not talk about things that you really got no idea about, your kidding nobody accept yourself.

Anyway, back to the topic, I personally have a very strong view about this, it was attempted some time ago ( cant remember when) and it was a huge failure and it was a failure even when the Euro and US relationships were pretty much totally fine. Now, these relationships arent so good. There are sooo many reasons why this is a bad idea.

First of all the trouble people are having to pick a good team is just stupid, in the last attempt of this, there were not as many pro USA players and the team seemed to be fairly easy to pick, as I remember I think TJ and Jack pretty much picked out the team... But the euro team was very difficult to pick, there were something like 30 people who wanted to play in it and that number was narrowed down to something like 20 REALISTIC candidates and then Milton decided that he was the best euro player and that he would choose the team. And even Milton had trouble narrowing it down and he narrowed it down to about 15 players and then couldnt choose (oh might I add, I was one of those 15 Milton) ... it was all very stupid and the idea was given up... Now there are more USA pro players and roughly the same amount of pro EURO players and there is nobody who really can possibly take charge. It seemed that when Milton decided he was going to pick the team that a lot of people accepted that and it almost finalised things, but nobody can do that now and there are always going to be disagreements about the team.

Second, this topic always creates so many flame wars and conflicts between people, so many different point of views that all have valid points in them. And in what Im saying now, its no different, this is just another guys point of view I suppose but im trying to make it clear. Anyway, there is no way you can put all these points of view together and make everyone happy, it just wont happen and theres all this talk about getting all the real old school pro's back etc ... but to be honest, those old school pro's are most probably out dated, like the little things like just running along the fence in the pit that they wont know etc ... and also, those types of people have lost interest in this game, focus on the people that are here and active atm ... This idea is to much effort for to little results and to little consequences ...

Thirdly who ever wins will use this against the other team, who ever looses will make excuses. After the match people will flame and disagree about the match, who ever wins will think that they are better than the other when to be honest, that most probably isnt true ... I do not think US or EURO is better than the other ... both have highly quality players all with a great range of skills and personalities which im sure many of us dont even know about ... For instance, I wonder how many USA players does the average pro EURO player know very well and has actually spoken to them and got to know them and the same with the USA players to the euros? ... All this will do is create so many pointless and shitty arguments and TK wars etc which chaser already has enough of, for this to happen, the euro and US relation needs to be sorted first ...

Lastly, and this is just a theory of mine which I cant prove but Im pretty sure will be the case ... which ever way you look at it, the EURO team has a disadvantage with the lag situation ... because, if the match is played on a euro server, then the euro's will be normal but the US players have pings of like 200 which is just a joke, it doesnt mean shit, it doesnt mean anything and its not a testiment to skill or tactics its just all shit and not a fun game ... I remember playing in the ussf cup final. most of the time when USMC had ak and we were at k1, I died well before I saw anybody and I could shoot people in the head with doubles several times and even see the blood but no death and I have no idea what its like for the US but I imagine shitty to, but the thing is, is that the US players are used to this ping and know how play and manipulate it and the euros do not and absaloutly hate it and get angry with it ...

If played on a US server then the americans just have it all normal but the euros have no idea how to play with the lag, they again just get angry and cant cope with it.

Now for most people this is deemed the "fairest" option, which is have a server located inbetween euro and US so all pings range from sort of 120 - 180 ... but those pings are still high and that lag is still annoying to play against and to play with ... at the minimum and I mean the MINIMUM the pings would be 100 - 110 and my god, I know that for me, im such a noob with a ping of 120 - 130, I usually dont even bother because everything is "trailed" and its just not fun and it doesnt prove my skill or anything like that ... and well the euros again usually have pings inbetween 20 - 70 which is no lag and when they get higher and begin to lag from sort of 90 +, they cant play... but the USA on the other hand like I said again, they can play because they are used to the lag because the vast vast majority of servers on Chaser are euro based servers because there are way more euro players ...

anyway, that is my interest in this topic, I serously think it should be forgotten and another idea is suggested like a nation cup ... like the CWC (Chaser World Championship) that got so well organiused then flopped at the last minute, that was brilliant ... but again that was a long time ago ... Havent got much else to say really ...

Why are you mentioning my name. I don't even play Chaser, wtf