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Re: Lag Reduction Patch

Posted: Thu 19. Feb 2009, 00:22
by Istvan
CRAZYpain wrote:if u fail to read the post part with "...at least 1 sec..." not my prob. i dont quote it for u ;) be a man and read ur selfe, thanks.


1 second of FPS FREEZE REDUCTION.

FPS IS DIFFERENT THAN LAG.

"^BE A MAN " AND GET A BRAIN PLX THANKS

Posted: Thu 19. Feb 2009, 00:22
by Advertising

Re: Lag Reduction Patch

Posted: Thu 19. Feb 2009, 00:58
by *D*A*S*A*
Well, I'm definitely not trying to take part in this flame war but I gotta say that POP's theory isn't that pathetic as most of you think it is. TJ tried to say that "editing" isn't the right word, but it is. When cauldron developed Chaser, they never intended to make the game with graphics even lower than what is provided by the game options. If you change that, then you have edited it. What POP tried to say was, if TJ can edit the game's textures, then perhaps he can edit something else. If TJ can make the game's textures smaller, then perhaps he can make his footsteps larger, for instance. I am not trying to take part in this arguing, I am just transmitting POP's idea in a better way.

You can say that editing the game's textures and editing its bullets, for instance, are completely different things and that the same way you edit textures cannot be used to give you advantage in any way. But you cannot say that the logic is stupid, because it isn't. He never intended to say that this patch is the same as hacking, he just focused in the method of editing.

I don't know shit about CS, but I do know it has got several punk busters, while Chaser has absolutely no protection about certain types of advantage. I don't have any hacking knowledge but I don't think it's hard to hack a game such as Chaser. And that makes his theory even more plausible.

Also, some months back, and I once spoke about this here, I have seen one american player using Deathmatch skins at Final Strike, in a public server itself. Since TJ was inactive at that time, I don't think anyone here doubts who was the responsible for such thing. And whether you want to admit it or not, that IS editing the game. And if you ask how can a different skin give any advantage, I will tell you that it's not about the skins, but about the method used to edit the ST mode features.

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Now about this patch, as a player with map making knowledge, I must ask you how or what exactly happens to the textures ?



CRAZYpain wrote:"TJ"u know what..i was about to say... i dont care ur words i saw engough and then... u "tryed" ban me nice action for someone who has nothing to hide ?! ;)
that points it out ..thanks !!

I love u guys too & you jack i love the most from all FAILED ?! :D


lool yeah, he banned me as well, when certain players couldn't reply to me no more, and he also tried to ban me when I posted some truths in the kma tournament's results topic, too bad fix gave me authorization to post those same truths in the off topic section and I will repost it at anytime.


LoyD wrote:oh boy .. i just say if someone says chaser dont lagg he lies as hell ... cause evry 1 of us lagg in chaser .. someone more someone less ..... i dunno why u spending time to dicuss a useless thing like this ...
i honestly must say ...chaser getting that gay , that if some ppl werent here that i like and that keep playing me chaser with them sometimes.... i never would play that game anymore

The game itself isn't laggy, it's just field with crybabies.


Reason given for ban: 2 week ban. Try to voice your opinion without calling people names.

A ban has been issued to POP by insulting people in this same topic. But I guess everyone can see that POP wasn't the only one insulting. Why the others, except TJ who claims(I don't think anyone believes it) he was banned as well, were not banned as POP ?

Days ago, a certain admin tried to permanently ban me by creating one flame topic, when a certain member of this community did exactly the same against me, by the same time I did against him, and absolutely nothing happened to him. - *

* It's getting easier and easier to see the corruption which is happening here, by a certain admin who is trying to take over this forum.

Re: Lag Reduction Patch

Posted: Thu 19. Feb 2009, 01:41
by Istvan
You're right, but this add-on was made to help everyone in Chaser, and you're flaming him to death.

The rest is pure speculation.

Re: Lag Reduction Patch

Posted: Thu 19. Feb 2009, 01:52
by *USA* ~ TJ
Pop:
faking orginal chaser = like hack = not allowed


Dasa:
He never intended to say that this patch is the same as hacking,


His main points were it's an advantage like hacking. And that it's an accurate representation of my knowledge of hack making. There is just no argument for either of these two. Because addons were meant to be made and anything that isn't supposed to be changed like bullet damage or movement speed makes you incompatible with other players. So if this patch doesn't make you incompatible, what does that tell you? And making an addon is not the same as making a trainer for chaser, so there is just no way he can link this to a knowledge about hack making. Done, over, nothing left to say but criticizing my patch itself, go for it if you feel the need to bring me down. Calling it anything else wont work. Or you can appreciate the fact that I tried to help people even if it didn't give you much of an fps increase.

he banned me as well, when certain players couldn't reply to me no more
- Off topic -_-
I didn't ban you. We won three tournaments in a row now and as long as that continues to happen. You will continue to say bullshit. That's just how it will always be and I accepted that. Like Jack said, when we felt there was bullshit. We Proved it. Words can't change victories, only actions can. Our actions spoke loud and clear, well over any amount of yellow text essays you can write on here.

Re: Lag Reduction Patch

Posted: Thu 19. Feb 2009, 04:06
by Sokolov
But you cannot say that the logic is stupid, ^because it isn't.


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Re: Lag Reduction Patch

Posted: Thu 19. Feb 2009, 13:03
by CRAZYpain
My point was and is a add on should not change the basic of the game or a part of it. it should "add" not "remove" something. otherwise it would be a update !! Again, footstep amplifier is a real "addon" as far it " only gives better sound to hear ur target(s) position." which doesnt remove party of the game basic and add seenful stuff.

and ofc yes its "like a Hack" bc hacks eding the basic of the game to get a bonus out of the original basic just like this patch here, same way even if u wanted it in a good way.

Imagen 2 guys from same country want do a 1on1. imagen both have nearly same skill. imagen both have a normal PC with mid fps not good not bad and nearly same connection (ping). one goes with ur patch...one without... i tell u one thing... the one without got a minus... Ofc the connection isnt effected BUT the fact he has lower cpu/graphic use and so better gameplay gives him a light bonus on shotingrate (little speed) which can save/cost live. A Add on shouldt give such a plus it is to "support" the players gameplay not improve it.

Now all must get that patch to have again a "balanced chaser".
Not thinking about newcomers...

*D*A*S*A* wrote:
Also, some months back, and I once spoke about this here, I have seen one american player using Deathmatch skins at Final Strike, in a public server itself. Since TJ was inactive at that time, I don't think anyone here doubts who was the responsible for such thing. And whether you want to admit it or not, that IS editing the game. And if you ask how can a different skin give any advantage, I will tell you that it's not about the skins, but about the method used to edit the ST mode features.


by the way, i saw last month a american ( with USMC tag) having a skin switching between black and white, which forces a blink effect, and it switched automaticly while he fighted - which is crazy and focks ur eyes bc ur are hell of surprised ;)

And i dont hate evry us guy or usmc at all, i have friends there too.
Dont blame me when iam sceptic bout all the things u do if i always see, and iam sry, always see things thats not "normal chaser basic" on us guys. Not meaning cheats at all.

And ofc yes,.. iam not the best skilled,..and yes i dont think i would beat mili or who eva ;) i know my level,... but..that doesnt have to say that i dont open my mouth if i have a problem with some stuff that may interrupt my and others gameplay and sure iam going into it with pressure to clear that point out bc i have some love for that game & for many players here and i xxxx want keep the fun "REAL".

well go on try help chaser like that,...the real software/codeing things chaser needs are 3:

Anti Cheat Engien
All letters and Asscci letters vote/kick able
Server ban option

First try to focus this before u do things arround it if u realy want "help" chaser.

Re: Lag Reduction Patch

Posted: Thu 19. Feb 2009, 13:51
by Istvan
LMAO typical speech of someone who knows fu*ck all of competitive gaming. Leave Chaser and go play a real game you sore loser. Add-ons are not like hacks. If people don't have those add-ons it's THEIR fault.

This was made to help people with bad computers. What you're saying is basically equal to say that, the other guy won because he has a better mouse. " oh u shoot faster ! "

You don't see anything strange. You're just low skilled. You can't ( like every single german ) stand when someone is better than you, or is owning ur ass. Germans have to blame something. Either lag or inexistent hacks.

And why don't YOU go code those things ? I recall the euros saying that the americans keep destroying Chaser, and that they've never done anything good for Chaser. server banning, anti server crash, chaser reloaded are just some examples. what have YOU guys done for Chaser ? Nothing, only trash talking. Non sense.

I bet that if this add-on would have been made by Fix, by this time we could see the forum full of topics like " ^FANKS FIX WI LUV IU ! ", with euros flooding with bs like " ^MEN NAW ICH KAN SPIEL MIT GUT FPS'S !!!!!111one "

Jealousy at it's best. go to hell naab.

Re: Lag Reduction Patch

Posted: Thu 19. Feb 2009, 14:09
by CRAZYpain
oh mili... i didnt say addons are hacks, pls stop dreaming :D
oh and hell ya i play good games besides Chaser but thats not the topic ;)

hands down if Fix had made that, in saaaame way, i had started to post the same way. its about the point of the played game software. there should be always 1 part by gaming that stands 100% simple same for all. if u install supporting add ons etc stands in ur hands but those shouldnt give a + vs those not having. hardware is one other thing..evry one has to make sure he has the needed one for the played software but the fact that the software is not same as others have even after patching is the point. without this at least 40% of players have a minus. and add ons shouldt get minus vs thos who dont have it... thats so simble... thats more like an update then a add on... and i dont hink Jowood was going to give players the keys to do theire selfe updates ;)

Re: Lag Reduction Patch

Posted: Thu 19. Feb 2009, 14:17
by Istvan
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Once again, you came up with lots of bullsh1t, but you didn't rly care to address my post. Prolly, bcus you CAN'T LOLZ.

Like I previously said, START PLAYING A GAME AT TOP LEVEL, GET A CLUE, AND COME BACK TO ME K THX ?

Re: Lag Reduction Patch

Posted: Thu 19. Feb 2009, 14:21
by CRAZYpain
uhm nice that u include "( add ons )", never wrote it like that. :D nice try but keep on earth.
and "like hacks" is not "is hack" open ur minde for "the way/the methode of hacks"
;)