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Re: THE REAL EUROPE VS USA - Now or never.
Posted: Tue 24. Feb 2009, 19:17
by Istvan
Atecep wrote:Yes Crip, he is an excelent player with an huge skill, with shotty and with ak.
Like you said, you stopped chaser so you dont know how he is atm.
And Karam has a HUGE ak skill.
Your problem is that, you only care about skill. No offense, but I didn't see anything brilliant coming from DASA or even you, in the match versus USMC ( just giving u an example ).
DASA finished with 18 frags, probably as a result of his skill. On the other hand, Fanatik is not skilled at all, but he finished pretty much with the same score. As a result of his tactical sense, and discipline.
Crip has a good AK, but below average Shotgun. The last times I played him, he was decent. Karam would be a good choice. Everyone in that list, except Crip.
Atecep wrote:Yes , how would you feel beeing considered one of the best of Europe?
He knows that feeling.
Posted: Tue 24. Feb 2009, 19:17
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Re: THE REAL EUROPE VS USA - Now or never.
Posted: Tue 24. Feb 2009, 21:16
by Atecep
Milton, there are severall reasons that will explain my performance agaisnt USMC. I crashed around 5 times. I had 50 fps at k1 in the middle of all those shots. But it doesnt matter now, right?
Well, now, about Crip, i still think he is a good choise, he has experience, tactical game sense, good skill. But, well, i think the main problem here isnt who should we choose but who shouldnt we choose.
We have TONS of players. Some good, some bad, some medium.
I wanna know your opinion Milton.
Tell me 6 Euro that you would choose to play vs USA.
Based in current skill ofc. (the ones you know)
Re: THE REAL EUROPE VS USA - Now or never.
Posted: Tue 24. Feb 2009, 23:48
by bunny3
"Isnt it an important match is chaser's history?
Yes , how would you feel beeing considered one of the best of Europe?"
in a dead game? lol
its funny how many u know about the chaserhistory
u wanna know some legendary fight? -> oso against h2k all remember that /since 4-5 years)... but i bet in a year nobody remember this 5on5.
why? the greates player in the chaserhistory played there... all legends in a 10vs 10
so i cant understand why u guys are make it so importent u cant change the chaserhistory
nobody of u can be on the same level like a hatcher, sjaak, suggy, azreal, darius (real one not the fake whos playing this times) madness62, last resort, karl kani and some more... that guys plays all the time 10 hours per day min... just to be the best i bet nobody of u are playing this... and u was laughing about a suggy whos ever year now playing sometimes? and u cant understand about his great skill? lool real oldschools remember it
well its a nice event but at all its a fight with nonames in this history so i dont wanna feel somethink on fight like that
u only feel somethink if u kill legends.
Re: THE REAL EUROPE VS USA - Now or never.
Posted: Wed 25. Feb 2009, 00:06
by Atecep
bunny3 wrote:in a dead game? lol
its funny how many u know about the chaserhistory
u wanna know some legendary fight? -> oso against h2k all remember that /since 4-5 years)... but i bet in a year nobody remember this 5on5.
why? the greates player in the chaserhistory played there... all legends in a 10vs 10
so i cant understand why u guys are make it so importent u cant change the chaserhistory
nobody of u can be on the same level like a hatcher sjaak or suggy
"Isnt it an important match is chaser's history?
Yes , how would you feel beeing considered one of the best of Europe?"
in a dead game? lol
its funny how many u know about the chaserhistory
u wanna know some legendary fight? -> oso against h2k all remember that /since 4-5 years)... but i bet in a year nobody remember this 5on5.
why? the greates player in the chaserhistory played there... all legends in a 10vs 10
so i cant understand why u guys are make it so importent u cant change the chaserhistory
nobody of u can be on the same level like a hatcher sjaak or suggy
Lets "suppose" you are right.
Then, why the hell should we be wasting our time spamming this with stupid flame wars?
why should we be wasting our time planing clan wars and creating addons?
Why should we be wasting our time playing?
Bunny, this Euro vs USA would be xxxx great!
And dont deny it, you know thats truth.
And i dont care what happend 5 years ago, past is past, we need to think about the present and future and the future of this game depends from things like this.
From clan wars, from tournaments, from rivalrys.
Actually, i dont care if you agree, if you disagree, if you like, if you dislike.
Your time is gone. 
Re: THE REAL EUROPE VS USA - Now or never.
Posted: Wed 25. Feb 2009, 00:15
by LoyD
omg i know that this never will happen but i wisehd the good old players came back and train their old skill then u can make ure CW vs them .. They will show u whats real gameplay and whats aim ... i never was a ledend .. a well known player who could keep up with the good guys i was anyway,but never a legend .. but i still can compare the times then and now , i lost my skill of this days that mutch (4ex . i could do 1 shot headdys with AK) and when i play today i suck but im still one with the most frags ... i just wish u would see 1 time how Chaser was used to play... total diferent than today ...the u calm down with ure big words like Legendary or what ever
Re: THE REAL EUROPE VS USA - Now or never.
Posted: Wed 25. Feb 2009, 00:20
by bunny3
its not a flamewar,.. i only told the thruth dont tell somethink what isnt done...
it wont be that feeling like against ppl like me...
and dont tell me u dont feel better if u kill ppl like suggy or tj... like if u kill ppl like crip

anyways in one point ure right my time is gone with leaving nice players like suggy and
sjaak

, chaser have a great history be proud about it
i can understand u will be a part of it, but respeckt the times... i wont post if i dont read something
like "THE REAL EUROPE VS USA - Now or never."

its just a reaction somethink whats wrong
Re: THE REAL EUROPE VS USA - Now or never.
Posted: Wed 25. Feb 2009, 00:36
by Istvan
bunny3 wrote:"Isnt it an important match is chaser's history?
Yes , how would you feel beeing considered one of the best of Europe?"
in a dead game? lol
its funny how many u know about the chaserhistory
u wanna know some legendary fight? -> oso against h2k all remember that /since 4-5 years)... but i bet in a year nobody remember this 5on5.
why? the greates player in the chaserhistory played there... all legends in a 10vs 10
so i cant understand why u guys are make it so importent u cant change the chaserhistory
nobody of u can be on the same level like a hatcher, sjaak, suggy, azreal, darius (real one not the fake whos playing this times) madness62, last resort, karl kani and some more... that guys plays all the time 10 hours per day min... just to be the best i bet nobody of u are playing this... and u was laughing about a suggy whos ever year now playing sometimes? and u cant understand about his great skill? lool real oldschools remember it
well its a nice event but at all its a fight with nonames in this history so i dont wanna feel somethink on fight like that
u only feel somethink if u kill legends.
You were going ok, till you said " with no names ".
People like me or Dasa/Karam would be capable of cope with any of those players you've mentioned. I've met Suggy and Sjaak in their prime, and I only had problems with Sjaak's AK. Suggy was a pain in the ass sometimes, but not really amazing.
You have TJ and Jack in USA's side, so I don't rly understand your concept of no names. I've also played you, long time ago, and you were just average.
Oh and btw, every online FPS game has its phases. And in each phase, you will have different gameplay style, tactics and so on. I've played enough games to realize that the oldest players in every game, apart from being the greatest aimers with pure skill, have lots of trouble when the tactical side of the game, improves.
Re: THE REAL EUROPE VS USA - Now or never.
Posted: Wed 25. Feb 2009, 00:37
by Istvan
LoyD wrote:omg i know that this never will happen but i wisehd the good old players came back and train their old skill then u can make ure CW vs them .. They will show u whats real gameplay and whats aim ... i never was a ledend .. a well known player who could keep up with the good guys i was anyway,but never a legend .. but i still can compare the times then and now , i lost my skill of this days that mutch (4ex . i could do 1 shot headdys with AK) and when i play today i suck but im still one with the most frags ... i just wish u would see 1 time how Chaser was used to play... total diferent than today ...the u calm down with ure big words like Legendary or what ever
Totally agreed, but they will never understand. I'm one of those already.
I can no longer find the motivation to get my aim and skill back. Most of the times, when I join a Chaser server to play, I joke around, kill some guys here and there, and then get tired and leave it for several reasons.
I'm not willing to play, and I don't need to say why.
But if you want my opinion here it goes :
Karam
Dasa
Sadic
Doni
Sjaak
Suggy
Me ( if rly needed )
It's pretty sad to see that this line-up is so weak compared with a possible old-school line-up. So weak...
Specially Sjaak and Suggy, which are so FAR from their prime.. So far..
Re: THE REAL EUROPE VS USA - Now or never.
Posted: Wed 25. Feb 2009, 01:08
by Istvan
Atecep wrote:[color=#00FF00]Milton, there are severall reasons that will explain my performance agaisnt USMC. I crashed around 5 times. I had 50 fps at k1 in the middle of all those shots. But it doesnt matter now, right?
It's funny you mention that.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not flaming.
But I don't see you or Dasa saying something like that in the following situations/examples :
- When Dasa beated me
- When Dasa beated Sokolov
- When W beated USMC in a 3on3.
Again, I'm not flaming. But you think that beating someone in a 1on1 makes you better than him. You think that killing some guy in a row, in a public server, makes you better than him.
But like you said, that's not important right now. (;
Re: THE REAL EUROPE VS USA - Now or never.
Posted: Wed 25. Feb 2009, 01:21
by *D*A*S*A*
I can't understand why you guys keep saying that Chaser is dead just because most of the best players left. The game isn't dead, I see servers full of players everyday. You guys quit the game because you don't see your old buddies playing anymore ? Who cares ? If they left, fµck them. It's sad, I know, but you can't bring them back. Why not focusing on new players, new generations ? Some of those Chaser legends kept this game alive for years, now it's your turn to do it. You've learned enough and seen so many things, and what you do with all that knowledge, experience and memories ? You waste it by doing exactly what those did long time ago... leaving the game...
I also think it's funny to see how the new school players are often lowranked when compared to the old school ones. You clearly don't know what newschool represents in Chaser. For me, it represents evolution. To compare Chaser new and old school and say the new school is far away in knowledge and skill, demonstrates your ignorance. You speak as if the Chaser old discoveries, tricks, techniques, tactics, knowledge, strategies were all wasted and lost, together with the old players. They were not, all those things are currently part of most of the player's gameplay. Yes it is true, nowdays only 1 in 20 Chaser players is skilled, but those who are, are probably at the same level of the old Chaser players.
I'm not trying to say that the old Chaser legends weren't great, I am just trying to say that you are letting your homesickness overrate those old players.